Future of PirateBox?
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Re: Future of PirateBox? April 13, 2015 04:08PM |
Hi,
thanks for posting those questions here in the forum.
But -as far as I can understand- you are mostly focusing on organization questions. I never made any thoughts by myself to flip the projects to a commercial project, because it was never intended to be like this.
I often discuss with friends how to monetize it to pay me something for doing a part-time development (compensating for not sitting at my full-time customer). In my opinion the classic PirateBox customer is price sensitive and wouldn't pay a relevant amount additional to the hardware costs.
A following contract was done so far for preparing LibaryBox 2.1; some points are still pending in the lack of time on my side.
In addition I'm able to contribute to Aram Bartholl's project called "OFFLINEART", which is a PirateBox fork as well, with a much cleaner focus on artists. There is some reimbursement, too.
Last but not least, If you buy something via our links on Amazon, I'm getting some advertisement fees. Those are enough to pay our AWS cloud for compiling the development builds, our webserver and in the end of the day- i take the rest of the money to by stuff for myself or use bought hardware for doing something like Freifunk Wiesbaden(Nodes MaStr-Freifunk, Rosetta and Philae (temporary online only)).
Overall, it is no big red minus under the line, but doing the PirateBox work is more like a freetime project then a paid work.
But it is not enough to do full time work of it, and I never expect the PirateBox project to be like that.
Last but not least, I don't want to sit at home all day long, develop for myself and talk with my mirror image
I would be glad to have two or three regular developers, that helps in different ways. It is not like that, that I'm not glad about the irregular contributions- they are great and I'm thankful for that!
Unfortunately, since I'm freelancing around and doing my beside-job study, I can't take much care of the project anymore. And so I became an irregular contributor on this and other projects.
There could be "any room" for creating a framework without the Piratebox stuff in there and turn the Piratebox as a user of that framework. There is a growing offline network community, which have some need for the solutions.
so far for now
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thanks for posting those questions here in the forum.
Technically spoken, with 2.0 the PirateBox should be working against latest OpenWrt release, more modular for building your own software on it and the mesh support is implemented in some way.Quote
What is the future of PirateBox?
But -as far as I can understand- you are mostly focusing on organization questions. I never made any thoughts by myself to flip the projects to a commercial project, because it was never intended to be like this.
I often discuss with friends how to monetize it to pay me something for doing a part-time development (compensating for not sitting at my full-time customer). In my opinion the classic PirateBox customer is price sensitive and wouldn't pay a relevant amount additional to the hardware costs.
I can say, that I get some money out of the project. First, I participated at a big Kickstarter success for LibraryBox (PIrateBox fork), where we did further development on the system. Those development things came back to PirateBox later (i.e. the automatic installation).Quote
how come this value is not turned into at least some money so Matthias
A following contract was done so far for preparing LibaryBox 2.1; some points are still pending in the lack of time on my side.
In addition I'm able to contribute to Aram Bartholl's project called "OFFLINEART", which is a PirateBox fork as well, with a much cleaner focus on artists. There is some reimbursement, too.
Last but not least, If you buy something via our links on Amazon, I'm getting some advertisement fees. Those are enough to pay our AWS cloud for compiling the development builds, our webserver and in the end of the day- i take the rest of the money to by stuff for myself or use bought hardware for doing something like Freifunk Wiesbaden(Nodes MaStr-Freifunk, Rosetta and Philae (temporary online only)).
Overall, it is no big red minus under the line, but doing the PirateBox work is more like a freetime project then a paid work.
But it is not enough to do full time work of it, and I never expect the PirateBox project to be like that.
Last but not least, I don't want to sit at home all day long, develop for myself and talk with my mirror image
See last sentence above.Quote
a small team can dedicate themselves fully to the project?
I would be glad to have two or three regular developers, that helps in different ways. It is not like that, that I'm not glad about the irregular contributions- they are great and I'm thankful for that!
Unfortunately, since I'm freelancing around and doing my beside-job study, I can't take much care of the project anymore. And so I became an irregular contributor on this and other projects.
There could be "any room" for creating a framework without the Piratebox stuff in there and turn the Piratebox as a user of that framework. There is a growing offline network community, which have some need for the solutions.
so far for now
This is only my signature.